Megan. How do the kids transport from housing to class? When the people called me it was much more of a sales pitch than anything else. I received a letter from the NYFL for business and am very interested in attending. I just got a letter from NYLF: Engineering and Technology and I was extremely excited because I was just about to start researching camps. I was wondering, I didnt see a post from you after he attended. First, National Youth Leadership Forum (NYLF) programs are legitimate. Melissa, The NYLF programs are not bad, but they are financially out of reach for many. Please if your kids have the experience, please share. The 6 day conference in Chicago is quite expensive, as other people have posted, around $2,000. Hi! I keep getting information about the program, at least every year. Its not as though federal and private security firms are opening their doors to high school interns or volunteers. I googled summer programs for high school students interested in nursing and found a long list of options. You might want to compare the National Youth Leadership Forum offerings to the programs offered by different colleges. The students that have attended all had positive things to say regarding the events. Bonus if your not a paid spokesperson for this program because apparently those exist. Jonathan, My sons letter indicated he was nominated by his teacher, but she did not do so. Speaking as a parent myself, I believe that your folks simply want to ensure you have the best opportunities they can secure for you- even if that means they have to make financial sacrifices to do it. They are looking for those who are willing and able to spend thousands of dollars on a week long summer experience. I see mixed comments about this camp for the fact that it is very expensive. The day ended with a raffle and an advertisement for the Youth Leadership Consortiums annual. Pre-College Issues Summer Programs reagbeag December 15, 2018, 4:07am #1 I received an email today saying that I have been "identified as a competitive applicant" for the Young Leaders Summit (YSL), which is presented by the Youth Leadership Consortium. It depends. She will be disappointed but I think she will understand. However, these programs are indeed expensive. We never got an e-mail from them even though in their last e-mail they said that she would receive an e-mail about the scholarship within two weeks. However, my parents are debating whether or not to allow me to go considering the fact that it is uncertain if parents are allowed to go. Thanks! Is there any other programs that will have a better price than the NYLF? I have yet to hear any positive feedback on the STEM program. Young Leaders' Consortium | 178 followers on LinkedIn. r/ApplyingToCollege is the premier forum for college admissions questions, advice, and discussions, from college essays and scholarships to SAT/ACT test prep, career guidance, and more. My 13 year old daughter was nominated by her teacher, as were several other kids in our charter schools middle school program. For more than 30 years, Envision has worked to help students discover their passions, explore careers, and make a difference in their communities. Look closely at the scheduled activities at each camp. . Paul, With that said, the program is the only I found that will be local enough for her age group. It absolutely ticks me off because those 2000 dollars couldve been used for something else my poor family couldve liked lmao but seriously Contact Information 1919 Gallows Rd Ste 700 Vienna, VA 22182-4007 Get Directions Visit Website Email this Business (703) 214-0973 Want a quote from this business? My entire budget for her summer camps is $800 and I already spent $300.on a city camp that will provide the childcare she needs so I can work. We began the YPS Leadership program to encourage the confidence and capacities of young leaders who can design and generate solutions to problems faced in post-conflict situations aligned with their values, while addressing root causes and systemic challenges. IF YOU SACRIFICE NOW ,THIS MAY BE A WAY TO GET A SCHLORSHIP IN YEARS TO COME AND YOU WILL BE FINACIALLY REWARDED. There are obvious differences in the programs, and I would not even consider the regular. I told the lady that I needed something in writhing stating that my daughter did not get the scholarship and I told them that we were not interested in this program anymore and we did not wish to receive any more correspondence from them. Its extremely expensive and I have received a couple similar nominations for similar programs. Im glad your program was good. My son is now a sophomore, we can drive to DC and has an interest in National Security/Military. Do you know any other programs? Required fields are marked *. Press J to jump to the feed. The experience as a whole looks very appealing and I would love the opportunity to go learn and meet new people who share a common interest. DO WHAT YOU CAN NOW TO GIVE THEM THE EDGE THEY NEED FOR A REWARDING FUTURE. Bottom line, highly underwhelming. The letter makes it seem as if NYLF is the only way your child can receive this type of recognition and enrichment. I was so excited for the robotics bit! This is not a scam, but this program is no more recognized than other organized summer-camp program. (They never release your exact score.) Hope this helps. Megan. Nothing should stop you [from going to college]. ]]]>, enrichment experiences, National Youth Leadership Forum, summer programs, summer programs for high school students, I am a sophomore in High School and considering the National Youth Leadership Forum. For high school students, the 18-day programs range from $5,495-$5,795, the nine-day programs run from $2,995-$3,295, and the six-day programs are $2,595. Not to mention we live near Springfield Missouri and this is in Chicago, il. After reading the comments here I was correct about them that they seem to care more about money. I worked as a teacher and counselor in a large public high school for years and cant remember ever sending in nominations. Are parents allowed to come with the students? She asked what it was and said I dont even like science. Really hesitant about the whole thing. I dont have any issue with students attending if you like the content of the program, want to attend, and your parents can afford it. I got a letter saying I have been invited to one of their programs. The workshops were all dissimilar; each grade level got to learn from two different workshops. https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-college-prep-podcast/id909682404?mt=2, http://collegepreppodcast.com/2015/01/increasing-act-scores-learning-disabilities-math-best-summer-camps/, http://www.engineeringedu.com/store/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=19, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envision_EMI, http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/19/education/edlife/leadership-t.html, https://www.bbb.org/washington-dc-eastern-pa/business-reviews/lecture-and-seminar-bureaus/envision-emi-in-washington-dc-7001305/reviews-and-complaints, Unexpected College Rejection & What You Can Do About It, Junior Year:What You Need to Know for the ACT / SAT, Personal Experience with 7th Grade Duke TIP, What Calculators Are Allowed on the ACT: Common Mistakes to Avoid. I should add that we live within driving distance of Washington, D.C., where the seminar is held. Ive always received the same email and found nothing about the program or if anyone else has attended. I hadnt heard from anyone in the engineering / technology program before; Ive heard mixed reviews about the law and medical programs. Im glad the program is legit, and Im glad its being held where we can drive in couple hours and drop her off. I dont think its about feeling special at all. I just dont want to waste time and money on something with minimal impact on me. Between the very high tuition and very over the top letter (repeating how prestigious it is in every paragraph), its a hard pass. Its about helping your child decide if this is what they want to do & to just have the experience & memory. Dont do it, it is too expensive. That really means a lot. OUR DAUGHTER IS 14 & IN 8TH GRADE, IS THIS TOO SOON? This summer she is participating in a Girl Scout Destination program where she can study at the Teton Science Center and camp in Yellowstone (about $750 including travel.) I understand the cost, and my family is prepared to shell out the cash. WISH ALL YOU GOOD LUCK AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW HOW MY GRADDAUGHTER ENJOYS HER JOURNEY. My guess is that some nomination may be made by school officials, but a majority of letters are sent from mailings lists NYLF acquires. (Her Fields) But I did some investigating and found both sources to not be worth the paper they are printed on. I think it depends on the person. Hi! If the latter, also fantastic, because he wont be wasting our money at college studying for a Security career that hell later discover he doesnt really want! My 9 year old son (4th grade) received one of these nominations (or solicitations?) i am an eleven grader and i just received a mail from NYLF and Im very interested in going. Unfortunately, the pandemic made this mission very difficult. They do ask for personal info on the application about income and stuff tho. My daughter is in the 3rd grade and she has been invited to this NYLF. Generally it means you scored well, but isnt as big an honor as they make it seem. I can say I was extremely excited for him and his recognition. Based on what youve heard and seen do you think its worth it? She mentioned the sponsors of this event, which included Wells Fargo bank, the American Indian College Fund, the College Board and APIA Scholars to name a few. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); College Prep Results, LLC: A Megan Dorsey Company. I just received my letter for NYLF:medicine and Im really confused i wanna go but it doesnt seem worth it especially since i have to take time off work to go (11th grader Im a life guard/ swim teacher in the summer) i just really dont know what to do and Id like som advice. She is already attending a local STEM camp and she has a full scholarship paid by her school. You are the best judge of what is appropriate for your daughter. Extra over-time, long weekends, teaching BJJ personals & IT work. Yes. This is not a scam, but this program is no more recognized than other organized summer-camp program. I agree with the term solicitation. I think she can save the fancy letter with the gold seals as a memento of her teachers belief in her abilities and her character. I am not happy! I think we will pass. If this program is legit, how did my step-grandson, a 4th grader, get nominated to a program this summer and does not attend the school nor has the teacher listed in the correspondence informing him of the nomination??????? She had no right to do that (horrible principal without doing that). I have been reading on the programs to see other peoples views on it and if it s really worth breaking the bank. Were going to talk with our son about it this weekend to see if hes interested. Still not sure though if this would be a good trip for me. My parents dont mind, but I told them they shouldnt waste it (because of the situation we are in). I am a single mom of a fourth grader who was just nominated. On their website they say the program includes everything except transportation to and from the place. My 12yo son just got this very nice acceptance letter in the mail. Last Summer I had decided on engineering and three months ago I decided on aerospace Engineering. Your day consist of seminars, and panelist all day. I would encourage you to call and ask very specific questions about the residential policies to make sure your concerns are addressed. Im just a bit confused about why i was nominated for that. The program will probably have the word leadership in its name, and the invitation to apply will most . The program is held in four cities across the US and . Matt, Why Do Gilmore Girls Fans Opt to Rewatch the Show Every Fall Season? Sure, @justwanttopass its https://ylc.hsfts.net/yls-application Im a parent myself and I wouldnt have put either of my children in this program as third graders. Wishing you the best! Brenda, This is the forth time I am receiving such invitations from prestigious Universities ans colleges and my parents are very proud but kind of freaked about about it because they dont undertand how my name got there. As it happens, both my husbands father and my father were in military intelligence fields during their service days. Im also worried about spending all of this money only to change my mind about what I want to do later. I AM ALSO A MOM OF THREE GROWN KIDS WHO ARE WELL EDUCATED AND NOW HAVE WODERFUL JOBS AND FINANCIAL SECURITY Its all about money. Candice, My son just returned from attending the NYLF Science and Technology session in San Francisco. I got nominated, but I am unsure how they got my name, I havent done any testings listed above, nor do I know how they discovered my want for law school, Megan, First, National Youth Leadership Forum (NYLF) programs are legitimate. Will it provide me with any type of competitive edge for college or a career in medicine in the future? If you knew my father, youd know thats practically glowing praise. I was nominated as well. SHE WAS NOMINATED BY HER 4TH GRADE TEACHER AND THEN DISCOVERED SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE IN HER SCHOOL TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. Look around and see what other medical or science programs are offered this summer. At that age, I would look for other enrichment opportunities in your community. 2 comments 100% Upvoted This thread is archived Does the NYFL offer some sort of scholarship to attend there programs ? They are over-hyped, but they are also legitimate summer experiences that many students have enjoyed and benefited from. I have been very interested in pursuing a career in medicine for the last couple years. You wont start in the ICU, but you will see the environment and get a chance to meet and talk to plenty of nurses. If you have particular universities in mind add the school name to your search. I would like to be able to do it but Im not sure if its worth it for a freshman to learn all this at once and Im also worried about the cost. Im not sure if these are being read or not, but i believe the most tempting part of NYLF is the fact of the leadership aspect. If your parents watched you play doctor as a little girl, and listened to you talk about how great it would be to help people by going into medicine, then when this invitation came in the mail, I imagine they decided to make it happen, no matter what they had to do to pull it off. But the oversell and false claims of selection taints it. just not something I am willing to chance. (YLS), a free program for low-income high school juniors in which the students go to the University of Chicago on a four-day retreat to learn about college. Megan. I have a feeling that our school is in a position to attempt to get as much money as they can get their hands on. When you take the PSAT, PLAN, SAT, ACT, etc., your name and address may be given to outside organizations. Im in 4th grade and I just got a letter from the NYLF . She spent one week in Wyoming for Girl Scout camp and two weeks away at debate camp. I suspect none of the kids in the class even understood the process. We want all schools to aspire to, achieve, and remain committed to a biblically-based philosophy of education, standards that are measurable, and flourishing-related criteria. We went to Pier 39 in San Francisco. Suddenly being included now that I have talked to the staff feels like an insult and this program looks like one that caters exclusively to those with extra money to burn. What an awesome nomination for him to receive. I think a lot of letters are sent from these lists. No, unfortunately. Give it a try. It sounded so awesome before I realized that they sent a letter to everyone whose name they could find. As with most things, its how much you put into the experience. Megan. Launched in 2017, the Youth Leadership Consortium (YLC), is a . An important thing to note about academics and how to impress colleges is to recognize that colleges look at you from the context of your school, Ferguson said. Probably not. Winter Formal 2023: Love is in the air at Clark, Your email address will not be published. Often kids get greater value out of hands on activities than out of lectures with big-name experts. Do they do a background check on the people who will be taking care of them while they are at the residence halls? We chose to not do the residential camp due to her age. This program was definitely NOT worth the price and in fact we found the materials describing the forum bordering on false advertising. Megan. The cost supposedly includes room and board located at University of California-Berkley along with classes, course materials and lab fees and transportation to and from off side excursions (likely not including the cost of the events) What are you throughts? There are scholarships available to almost everyone, so applying to as many as possible wouldnt do harm. The Young Leaders Summit (YLS), presented by the Youth Leadership Consortium (YLC), is a free, five-day, overnight, college . Your email address will not be published. Fergusons advice about grades and AP classes in this context is to do the best that you can do in the environment that you are in. Additionally, colleges want to see that an applicant is involved in their school, involved in their community and taking leadership roles. So do some research and compare options before deciding which one is right for you. The two programs cost roughly the same, and after reading some of these comments, it seems to me that the NYLF program is what you make of it. Heres the other thing- I received the letter in the mail yesterday afternoon informing us of the nomination and the scholarship deadline is tomorrow! Your high school guidance counselor can also be an invaluable resource; counselors often get the most up-to-date information about educational opportunities in your area- some at no cost to you! There are a few peculiar things about it, so I am curious if anyone here knows if it's legit or not. My neighbors kid did this to add it as an EC. Envision EMI understands this perfectly, and relies on parents genuine delight in being nominated to entice parents to spend far more money than they should on the program. I know that the organizations obtained my name from college board, and my teachers. SAT is a registered trademark belonging to College Board and is not involved with or affiliated with College Prep Results, nor does College Board endorse or sponsor any of the products or services offered by College Prep Results. Please feel free to email me personally. This feeling makes parents feel pressure to send their children, even if they can ill-afford the price tag. We were terribly disappointed in the staff, content of material taught, supervision, quality of kids and quality of teachers. The NYLF programs are fun and enriching. Hi, I went to this last summer and it was nice for engineering. Thanks! I was just wondering about how a college would look at me being involved in a program such as this and how they would perceive my application on whether they like it or not? We are about to pay for her to attend but will like to know if the amount you pay includes your flight to go and return, if she will be traveling with other students choosed from different schools or if we have to find a means for her to get to the college campus she will attend the program at. I feel likejust save the $2000 and put it into a college savings account for her. Id encourage you to look for a variety of opportunities. I think that it would be a great experience for anyone who got nominated and is thinking about going. From time to time we would receive nomination forms soliciting names and contact information. Megan. My child thoroughly enjoyed her experience with Envision and NYLF Medicine. Id encourage you to google summer engineering programs for high school students. You can specify California or San Francisco and see what you find. Another thing to consider with college application is to find the right school for you; the way to determine this is through extensive research and finding out a colleges majors, financial aid, location, graduation rate, campus life, public vs. private school and religious vs. non-religious school environments. So, yes, the letters are more marketing than exclusive honor. I would like some other less costly options for my son! I am a high school student and received a letter about the National Security trip today. At 11 years old he is not defining his career path, I could see this more beneficial for H.S. Bad costumer service! I like to see a full day of programs and activities and limited free time because this is when younger students tend to get homesick. Thank you for adding so much information to the discussion. You identified the key question which program will have the greatest impact? Id love to hear from anyone who has sent their elementary age child. @Seventeencarat Hey! More so feeding on people who want the best for their child. You might find something close to you that costs a fraction of the price. People were welcomed with smiling faces, drawstring bags and an array of breakfast products, stuffing their hungry stomachs with bran muffins and orange juice, then ushering themselves into the massive gym of Loyola Marymount University, home of the Lions, to see what and how much they could learn about attending college in one day. The food is great but bring spending cash in case you would like to order take out before bed. I recently received an email from the Youth Leadership Consortium inviting me to apply for the Young Leaders Summit. When I thanked him for the recommendation, he said she deserved it, but he apologized about the cost. Our son has grown up hearing their stories, at least the ones they are permitted to tell, and hes always been interested. Wells Fargo has committed over $24 million to HSF, which has supported over 3,000 scholars across the country. Hell be attending in March 2016. My granddaughter receive letter today in mail about program she very interest in attending dont have funds to attend is there assistance for low income families. My package actually says to call within 24 hours. I would be the first person in my family to get a degree and be a doctor, Tran said when asked about how important it is for her to go to college. Megan. So we have found great alternatives at a fraction of the price. Partner Supporter Our Programs San Francisco 6 Marin 6 San Mateo 10 Merced 5 Fresno 18 Eastern Coachella Valley 3 Long Beach 8 Statewide 5 Madera 4 0 Upcoming Events Featured Stories Exploring The Real Creator of Hispanic Heritage Month One Year After His Death Their is an FAQ section for students on their main page. Would he get more out of the program if you waited a year or two? The news release (PDF) states, "During autumn of 2022, the Traceback Consortium . We discussed a question very similar to this on The College Prep Podcast this week. Sylvia, they probably got your name when you took the PSAT, PLAN, SAT, or ACT. Hes only 9 years old and in the fourth grade. I agree. Im a junior and I got a letter in the mail today for the NYLF Law & CSI program, and I havent necessarily seen any bad experiences regarding it. I know they both offer scholarship opportunities for academic proficiency. It says it accepts 200 low-income students and will be held at UChicago without any fees, even transpo… I recently received an email from the Youth Leadership Consortium inviting me to apply for the Young Leader's Summit. Let us know if in the end it was worth it. My daughter who is only 8 years old is a HUGE dreaming of being in the fields of science. It says a faculty member at my school nominated me, but Im not so sure Ive spoken to him once, so how would he know that I am planning on going into the military? you can also receive scholarships for community efforts and grades! They were horrible. Let's start with the pros: The camp somewhat sufficiently did what the program description claimed: it helped me gain an introductory experience in the medical field with hospital tours . A College Prep Saturday participant plays an HSF trivia game, in which he had to spin the wheel and answer questions based on the categories. Hi, late last year I received a nomination to NYLF: Engineering and Technology. I would never let her leave the state so I appreciate they hold it in many states at many major colleges I am not interested in gaining prestige, just experience and a fun week filled with learning. How nice of them to solicit nominations, but not mention the cost. Can you send a link of their program? 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